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Enlighten-brand Pirate Ship (Review)

by Damien (Brick Talk)


We all know there are plenty of clone-brands out there, Enlighten, Kobi, Best-Lock and MegaBloks just to name a few. Some are more blatant than others. Enlighten is one of those. Their bricks are, visually, exact copies of LEGO bricks. Even their sets, for the most part, are almost exact copies of older LEGO sets, usually with ridiculous colour schemes and really weird minifigs and minifig accessories thrown in which don't match the set at all (they have Castle sets with the tall Imperial hats, for instance).

However, I was curious - so when I saw this small pirate ship by Enlighten for under 4 dollars, I just had to have it. I figured, at worst, I'll be able to provide my thoughts on the set and the company to you, the members of MCN (and passerbys that are not members).

So what do I think? It's actually pretty awesome. The brick quality is just not up to LEGO standard, I'm sorry to say. But they're still sturdy, quality bricks - they're just not LEGO quality. The bricks all fit together very well, although I really had to put some muscle into it to snap them together tightly. I only had one piece that was really loose - and it wasn't a problem since it got joined to the ship by a bunch of other pieces, so now it's sturdy as can be. I'm actually very impressed by how sturdy this set is, especially considering I was expecting it to be a complete piece of junk.

The minifig accessories (in this set, at least) are 100% compatible with LEGO minifigs. The parts are blatant copies of LEGO parts, and resemble them almost perfectly. One thing I did notice was that the 'chrome' pieces (like the pirate sword) are not done in the same way as LEGO chrome parts. These ones are sturdier, shinier, and don't appear as though the chrome will 'rub off' like the LEGO chrome does.

The minifigs themselves are another story, I'm sad to say. They're flat out inferior to LEGO minifigs in every way, from quality to design. The prints on the torsos and faces are pathetic, at best. The arms are not sturdy in the sockets, and are a very slightly different shape from LEGO arms. The torsos also appear to be slightly different, but very similar to LEGO ones. The legs look exactly like LEGO leg assemblies, but are not of the same quality. In summation on this one - buy the sets, throw away the minifigs and keep the minifig accessories. The ONLY good thing about the minifigs is that the hands utilize longer pegs and all seem to be very tight in the arms - this is something LEGO tends to be really hit-or-miss with.


I know you want pictures, so here they are:


Please note that in the pictures of the ship, the minifigs being used are official (well, one is a custom) LEGO minifigs and do not represent Enlighten minifigs.












Here are the minifigs:




Like I said, the parts are all pretty cool. The chrome sword is awesome, the brown rifle is a great addition. Not a big fan of the chrome flintlock pistol, though. The captain's hat is also great. Note that the center figure did come with a hat, but I'm using it elsewhere. . .



These are official LEGO. The minifig on the left has a custom face (Redbean Boromir) and torso (Kaminoan/Sava), and shows off the black Enlighten tricorner hat and one of the two chrome swords that came in the set. Very cool.



So -- Enlighten brand sets, from what I've seen thus far, are definitely worth the money, especially since you can get them pretty cheap. I'm still trying to decide if I'll buy any more to review here. I want to, but my expenses this month are enormous, so maybe not. We'll see. I'd certainly like to get more sets, especially some of the jet fighters and other military-theme sets. Cool stuff. Hopefully the other sets will live up to this level of quality, at least.





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by the enigma that... on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 13:18
Excellent review, Damien!

I've picked up a few of the Oxford-clone Enlighten sets, and I came to the same conclusions: decent, though not TLC, quality and some nice accessories that can't be found elsewhere.  There is one interesting minifig torso I really like from this "brand":



However, I still can't find a set that has the torso in enough numbers to make it worth the shipping costs.

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by Viking Maniac on Wed, 04/18/2007 - 13:39

I think it's absalutely disgraceful that this blatent clone gets away with this, but the sword is cool.

I saw this on Bricklink and I only though "Cool hat", and moved on. I knew it was a clone brand the moment I saw it. The tricorne is nice aswell though, and I think the cromed flintlock could be used for a captain or something, as my captain has to settle with a black one.

The design itself looks quite nice though, but the red seems to e really cheaply done and almost see through, sort of translucent.

All in all, thumbs down from me.




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by armothe on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 08:41
I just got the same set from Hong Kong - have yet to open it though. Boy that sail design bites.
Thanks for the review - now I can legitmately have better expectations.
I agree on the flintlock- shouldnt have chromed it. I'm actually chroming a few Wild West revolvers though - a bit more realistic.

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by acepilot246 on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 09:46
Damien wrote:


I was expecting it to be a complete piece of junk.



 

Was that an intended pun or did I just spot this? This kind of ship resembles old Chinese sailing ships known as "junks" Well form the sails anyway.

Just an observation. Its terrible that they can look basically like legos and not have TLC lawsuit'em to heck.

You give just abotu any of these to someone under the age of 12 and they would think they were legos even if they arent. IMO lego should actually do somethign abotu this...




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by Damien on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 12:41


For those saying LEGO should do something about this -- they can't. Their copyrights are not legally binding in China. It should also be noted that, from what I've seen, Enlighten does not copy any current LEGO sets - they copy retired ones. Now, as for the moral rammifications, I'm on the fence on that issue. When I was young I knew quite a few kids that couldn't afford to buy any fair amount of LEGO sets because they were somewhat expensive. They're still rather expensive (more than they used to be, actually). Cheaper-priced clone bricks can play an important role in making quality building bricks available to people that otherwise could not afford official LEGO. This is especially true in their region of origin, where LEGO prices are absurdly high (say, 50 dollars equivalent for a set that goes for 15-20 dollars in the States).

So on the one hand, I don't like the idea of any company stealing another's ideas. But on the other hand, you have to applaud a company that's doing right by the consumer. No one can deny that being able to purchase a building toy for less than half the price of an equivalent LEGO set is a good thing for poorer families - especially those in third world countries (or near to it) where such toys would simply be out of reach. If LEGO can't fill that gap with more reasonable prices - someone needs to.

LEGO quality is better all around. I doubt a Chinese company is going to even marginally cut into their sales. People who can afford LEGO will buy LEGO because it's flat-out better. People that want old sets LEGO doesn't produce anymore, or who cannot afford real LEGO sets, will buy these (or go to Bricklink). Slightly different markets, so I don't feel quite so bad because I don't feel LEGO is really losing any money due to this clone company. The secondary market like eBay and Bricklink has actually probably done more to cut into LEGO sales than any clone company would ever be able to do, with the possible exception of really 'powerful' companies like MegaBloks.


Was that an intended pun or did I just spot this?

It was intentional. I didn't think anyone would notice it, though. Good catch.

You give just abotu any of these to someone under the age of 12 and they would think they were legos even if they arent.

All LEGO parts actually have 'LEGO' printed on them. Even when I was 10 I knew the difference between clone bricks (MegaBloks used to look a lot more like LEGO when I was young) and official LEGO. Of course, I didn't care all that much as long as the quality was good. Most kids really don't care. 10-year-olds don't buy brands, they buy stuff they like.

Boy that sail design bites.

Yeah, it does look a little weird, huh? That's probably the first thing I noticed when I opened it up. The sail design just seems like too much detail, and not particularly attractive either. I'm thinking of replacing it with a LEGO sail at some point.

The design itself looks quite nice though, but the red seems to e really cheaply done and almost see through, sort of translucent.

The red -is- a little translucent in certain lighting. Like I said, the quality is not the same as with LEGO parts, and these sets were obviously created with an eye for keeping expenses down. That generally means lower quality plastic, first and foremost. Even big name companies like ToyBiz have been guilty of this. They're notorious for using really soft plastic in their action figures, which results in bent, warped, or otherwise damaged joints.

However, I still can't find a set that has the torso in enough numbers to make it worth the shipping costs.

Badg -- that's just the Imperial coat with a different colour scheme. Didn't I already make a vector version of that for you? If I did (can't even remember now), I could easily alter the colours on it to match that picture. Cloning a clone-brand. How's that for irony.





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by the enigma that... on Thu, 04/19/2007 - 13:44
Damien wrote:


Badg -- that's just the Imperial coat with a different colour scheme. Didn't I already make a vector version of that for you? If I did (can't even remember now), I could easily alter the colours on it to match that picture. Cloning a clone-brand. How's that for irony.


You did come up with a great vector version, but it unfortunately was when Kam was having printing issues, so the decals themselves didn't come out  well  at all.  When he shipped replacements, I think he just forgot to include your designs along with those of his that I had ordered considering how long the whole thing took.  By this time I had some other stuff going on as well, so I just wrote it off to take care of later.

If you get and time and are so inclined, a recolored Imperial decal would be awesome.  Thanks for the offer!

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by badboytje88 on Sat, 04/21/2007 - 04:13
The torso decal on the middle figure looks actually really nice! Does this set have the same quality as lego does? Some of the parts seem a little bit translusent... (How do you spell that, please help me out a little bit!)


by Damien on Sat, 04/21/2007 - 08:54

Does this set have the same quality as lego does?

Well I'm not sure. Perhaps the answer to that question can be found in the review. Let's look together, shall we?

 "The brick quality is just not up to LEGO standard"
 "they're still sturdy, quality bricks - they're just not LEGO quality."
 "The minifigs themselves are another story, I'm sad to say. They're flat out inferior to LEGO minifigs in every way, from quality to design."

Not to be rude here, but I posted a -review-. It's not like I didn't talk about the quality of the set IN the review. You just have to -read- it.

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by acepilot246 on Sat, 04/21/2007 - 16:43
Damien wrote:



Was that an intended pun or did I just spot this?

It was intentional. I didn't think anyone would notice it, though. Good catch.

You give just abotu any of these to someone under the age of 12 and they would think they were legos even if they arent.

All LEGO parts actually have 'LEGO' printed on them. Even when I was 10 I knew the difference between clone bricks (MegaBloks used to look a lot more like LEGO when I was young) and official LEGO. Of course, I didn't care all that much as long as the quality was good. Most kids really don't care. 10-year-olds don't buy brands, they buy stuff they like.

When I was younger I could tell the difference as well, mostly in par that not only does lego have their name on the top of every solid stud, but also lego were the only bricks you could buy that would stay together without 10 bottles of glue and a soildering gun.

It would be a decent set to have Iguess, if not for the 2-3 interestign features I see but overall it seems ... "shotily made" (shottily? IF there is such a word, oh you know what im aiming at)

 

I do agree with how this would be good since it fills that nasty price gap...




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by Dragon Rider on Sun, 04/22/2007 - 19:33

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When I was younger I could tell the difference as well, mostly in par that not only does lego have their name on the top of every solid stud, but also lego were the only bricks you could buy that would stay together without 10 bottles of glue and a soildering gun.

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Megablocks isn't that bad!!  I really like the Mega Blocks Pyrates and  Pirates of the Caribbean  series.  I think I might make a review on the really unique (and cool figures) they have in those series. 


I don't think Enlighten should be able to get away with that level of cloning.  (Too bad they can.)  At least it fills the price gap


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by badboytje88 on Tue, 04/24/2007 - 08:33
Sorry, kinda stupid of me to ask questions without reading the review! :)


by solid snake on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 01:20
I bought an enlighten military set a while back and i was quite pleased. Sure the arms on one of the figs is a bit wobbly and the skin yellow is darker than lego but that doent bother me because there were some cool parts in it. Personally i think lego is far behind other brands in terms of military accesories for minifigs, I also they will not make any anytime soon. personallly with all the conflict in the middle east going on they probobly should make  some military sets to help educate kids about whats going on in the world around them and help them understand the situation better


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by Damien on Fri, 04/27/2007 - 10:28

with all the conflict in the middle east going on they probobly should make  some military sets to help educate kids about whats going on in the world around them and help them understand the situation better

Huh. . .? I don't see how letting Junior run over minifigs with a tank and pretend to blow people away is going to 'educate' him. I had hundreds of G.I. Joes in my day -- I didn't understand the Gulf War any better. Military toys do not help kids understand foreign policy, warfare, or the myriad other issues involved in overseas (or internal) conflict. They're toys. And that's why LEGO doesn't produce them -- the violence inherent in LEGO toys with guns is just too 'real' for LEGO's business model. I can understand that.

TLG might change its collective mind due to the rising popularity of clone-brand military sets. Then again, it might not. But it would simply be about fun toys for kids. Let's not deceive ourselves into believing it will serve some noble, higher purpose than that.





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by Broken Down Lego on Mon, 05/07/2007 - 03:49
Damien wrote:


All LEGO parts actually have 'LEGO' printed on them. Even when I was 10 I knew the difference between clone bricks (MegaBloks used to look a lot more like LEGO when I was young) and official LEGO. Of course, I didn't care all that much as long as the quality was good. Most kids really don't care. 10-year-olds don't buy brands, they buy stuff they like.

When I was very young, from time to time we found some Romanian lego ripoffs (it was sold by Romanians, do not know it they built it...but lets stick to that) with of course no LEGO markings on the brick, with minifigs totally different (and totally obnoxious) which I threw away at once, tires and wheels that were just broken, wind shield on the car that was...well, strange, but! And I mean but they held together just fine, just like real legos (apart from wheels). I have a brick or two even today. And what do we have now? Bricks that look more of lego, but do not fit. An advance in ripoff production? I bought recently an original and a ripoff box (ripoff first) and try to put them together. The ripoff gave me finger bleeds, and the original came together like a dream. You never see the real difference 'till you do it like me (first the ripoff, than the original)


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by acepilot246 on Mon, 05/07/2007 - 09:44

Broken Down Lego wrote:
You never see the real difference 'till you do it like me (first the ripoff, than the original)

Unless of course you do the exact opposite... What you said here to me makes no sense, could you clrify what you mean by, thats the only way you can tell WHat was a ripoff of what? An original? Do you mean lego (actual lego) set or do you mean like an original knockoff set? Clarify please...




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by Broken Down Lego on Mon, 05/07/2007 - 15:49
Again sorry, when I say ripoff yes I mean a knockoff, and when I say original I do mean real lego (what else). What I meant (in so many words) is that you will see the real difference (and feel the real pain) between the knockoff and the real lego if you try and assemble a set of bricks from a knockoff firm (e.g.Enlighten) and from LEGO (in that order). That is when you will see how harder it is to put together a knockoff compared to a LEGO set. Why in this order? Because the strenght you used to put together a knockoff, that you will be using afterwards on a real lego set, that strenght will be too much for the real lego bricks (because you brain will make no difference seeing the same visual and doing what it just did i.e. use the same amount of force in your fingers....and so on) and it will be funny how hard you press and that you can not help it (but after explaining this I do not even find it funny). But to go on, if you do the opposite (first the real lego, than the knockoff) you will ajust after the real lego to the torment of the knockoff, and you will not notice the difference (in that way).
p.s. the AGAIN at the beginning if for the other post that I rewrote in the MILITARY LEGOISH THING thread. Have I cleared everything?


First I did not know what to put here, than you guys gave me an idea for a sig that best suits me:
Sorry for any odd words, grammar errors or any such, English is not my native -it's my second out of four languages...
by acepilot246 on Tue, 05/08/2007 - 09:36
Yes thanks a ton. And welcome to MCN =)


Hey vg838 thanks for the sig fig!

by Damien on Fri, 05/11/2007 - 19:54

You don't have to put together a clone brick first to note the difference. I hadn't put together any LEGO sets at all in probably a month and a half or more when I put together this pirate ship. But I still noted how much harder it was to shove the pieces together. But I'm not a girly-man with girly-hands, so it didn't bother me all that much.  :)  I kid, I kid.




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by the enigma that... on Mon, 05/14/2007 - 23:15
Damien wrote:
But I'm not a girly-man with girly-hands, so it didn't bother me all that much


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