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Damien's New Swords (Updated: June 4th)

by Damien (Tips, Techniques & Questions)


ATTENTION: I've removed all non-essential pictures and links as I make the annoying transition from Photobucket to Brickshelf. You can find everything at my Brickshelf account, however.

ATTENTION again. . .: Switched existing pictures with the ones in Brickshelf to finally clear out the Photobucket account. Nothing new, though.


Played with a Little Armory longsword today. Pretty simple operation. Just file off the nubby bits on the quillions (the 'arms' of the crossguard), then heat the guard indirectly and turn it. Ta-da.

I was inspired to do this by this sword design (as yet unproduced) at Albion, called the Fiore.

For those who don't know, the standard LA longsword looks like this:
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This is my modification:




And if you click right here (link removed) you can see it in the hands of our noble knightly model - Ferdinand.


I think it turned out well.

 

 -------Update-----------

Tried something else. Started out with the sword in this picture. (Link goes to Jeff's Brickshelf).

Curved the guard into a style 9, like the one you see in this picture.

The result was this:

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Not too shabby. Wanted to combine it with the brazil-nut pommel from the other LA single-hander, though. So I did.


Unfortunately, it didn't turn out the way I wanted. The grip is off-center, which looks noticable, and funny, when not in a minifig's hand. And the grip is far longer than I wanted it to be (as I wanted the pommel to sit against the butt of the palm). So while the sword doesn't look too bad, it isn't perfect, either. I'll probably try again on this design tomorrow, as this is the one I'm really keen on doing just right.


--------------Update 2-------------

Tried again. Succeeded this time. Took the same LA single-hander (with the curved guard), filed down the sides a bit to make it thinner and, after heating it, bent the guard up and pinched the ends to give it the 'rolled' look of style 9 guards (at least as best can be done at this scale). Then I cut the grip from a 'boat' or 'brazil-nut' (the difference is negligible at this scale) single-hander and attached it flush to the guard. I was afraid the glue wouldn't hold up - but so far I've taken the sword in and out of a hand a dozen or so times and it's sturdy. Good deal.

The finished piece looks like this:




Our Greco-model Helikaon (link removed) is more than happy to show it off.


And for fun, here's a group shot of all three swords I've finished so far:

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As you can see, the new version of the sword has a much shorter grip, which is what I was originally going for. I think it turned out almost perfectly. Now if only I could match the Little Armory silver used on the armour. But I don't think Citadel makes anything that will match the hue, colour, and 'flatness' of the colour. Oh well. I'm happy. Next in line is a modification of the two-hand flamberge. Or maybe another longsword modification.

 

------------Update 3-------------



Added another sword to the collection. Started out with a Little Armory two-hand flamberge, snipped off the lugs, heat-bent (as with the above swords) the guard into a straight position, and filed down the upper portion of the quillions. I also used a LEGO brown cloak, cut a piece of it off and wrapped the sword's ricasso. The wrap is removable (and historically ambiguous).

The result is this:



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The Black Legion Landsknecht, Johann, is pleased to be our model:

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More info: This sword is loosely based on the Albion Tyrolean. I'm still considering painting the hilt. It's definitely a possibility, since the grip is just loose enough in a minifig's hand that the added thickness of paint and clearcoat won't make it too thick to be held. I originally intended to file down the undulations in the blade, but that would have made the blade too thin. So I have another design in mind for that project.
Historical premise for the fig:  The Landsknechts were a German organization of pikemen, hand-gonners, halberdiers, and two-hand swordsmen. But, for many, the most identifiable aspect is the two-hand swordsman. The Black Legion, specifically, were black-armour-clad Landsknechts who refused to return to Germany after being recalled there from their service in Burgundy during the 16th century. Technically, Landsknechts were known to wear white feathers in their hats, but I didn't feel like painting a ploom - so it's red.

 
---------Update 4------------

Another longsword conversion. This one was inspired by a sword that's dear to me - the Albion Markgraf. But you can also see what I was going for by looking at the hilt of this sword. Unfortunately, there was no really good way to do the rings around the base of the blade like those on the Albion Markgraf. So I had to give up on that, at least until I can think of something that might work.

To make this, relatively minor, modification is a simple matter of filing off the stubby-bits on the quillions of an LA longsword. Then heat the guard and give it a turn in either direction. Simple, but it looks quite nice. I took more than one picture of this one in and out of hand because of the difficulty of catching an angle on this piece that really shows you how it looks.




From tip to pommel

In hand


Enjoy. Still have at least three more designs either in the works, or about ready to get pictures taken.


---------Update 5-----------

And another one!

This particular sword, while historically-minded, has no direct correlation like some of the others. It is inspired by a few different two-handers, like the Albion Chieftain, Albion Maximilian, and even the AT-1520. Stylistically, it's another Landsknecht kind of sword - big. Really big. How did I make it? Thanks for asking. I first clipped off the balls on the quillions of the LA two-hand flamberge. Then I cut off the lugs at the end of the ricasso (the little pointy bits that stick off the blade). Then I cut the blade off at the end of the ricasso (blunted portion of the blade close to the hilt). I had an LA single-hand sword blade laying around from one of my previous mods, so I cut the guard off of that, and pinned the blade to the ricasso of the two-hander. Viola.



Full size


And if you click here, you can see the sword in the hands of its owner, Hans.

The sword does need some touch-up work. A little filing. I can't hide that it's two separate pieces stuck together, which means I will almost assuredly be painting the blade and hilt furniture to make it look nicer.

About Hans (because I know you're curious. . .): Hans, like Johann, is a Landsknecht. However, he's an earlier type. He is not a member of the Black Legion, and he is from a rustic, relatively poor background; meaning he cannot afford the more lavish and colourful clothing styles generally preferred by the Landsknechts. And, not being at all wealthy, his sword is of an early style that's less impressive and ornate as other Landsknecht-style swords.



-------Update 6---------

Finished another. This particular one is based on the Albion Jarl. First I filed down the guard of an LA single-hand sword (the one with a curved guard), then heat-bent it into shape. After that I cut off the grip and replaced it entirely with an LA Viking sword grip. The finishing touch was a very subtle filing of the point of the sword to make it slightly more rounded than normal, to give it that transitional cutting-sword look that the Albion Jarl has. Didn't file it too round, as I didn't want to ruin the blade.


And here's the result:




In Hand



-----------Update 7------------

Finished another. This was a bit more difficult and didn't turn out perfectly, but I really like it nonetheless and I think it looks pretty good. Started with two LA longswords. Filed down the upturns on the guard of one and snipped off the pommel. Cut the handle from the other as well as the pommel and attached the extra piece of handle to the handle of the other sword. Then I cut only the disc portion of the pommel off one of the remaining bits and attached it to the handle as well. It isn't lined up perfectly, unfortunately. And during the picture-taking process it broke again and had to be reglued, so it does have noticable gluing. Not much I can do. Once I get some more LA longswords in the house I may try this one again to see if it can be done with more precision.

Anyway, the design is loosely based on the Albion Talhoffer.




Full Size

First View

In Hand


Like I said, despite its faults - I like it.





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by Lamanda2 on Sat, 05/20/2006 - 21:16

Looks very nice Damien,exactly like the referance picture.

Great job!




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by brick dude on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 04:06
that is arsome


by Loki on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 04:07
I will not tolerate offencive posts - if you have no appropariate thoughts to express, simply do not post. A suspension/ban for user Loki will be processed by the Moderators Council. Damien, we apologize for the lack of manners of this member. UA.

User has been suspended until further notice.



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by brick dude on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 04:09
loki, u can't say that

We will make sure he doesn't do that again. UA.


by buddyfett on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 04:15

good idea.....great!!!




by Unknown Artist on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 04:40
As usual, Damien, great custom! It looks better this way and very accurate to the reference picture. What did you use to heat the guard, I wonder?


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by Damien on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 05:02

Well, Loki must have done something bad. I was writing up a review for the last couple of hours, so I didn't see it. Probably just as well.

Thanks for the kind words, guys. I'm rather happy with it, myself. As for it being accurate to the reference picture - most of the credit for that goes to Jeff and his applaudable skill at crafting these weapons to begin with. My change was minimal, and wouldn't have amounted to much if his designs weren't already so historical-minded. (He also uses perfect plastic, or his manufacturer does, at least, as it reacts very well to heat). As for what I use to heat the sword - just a candle. Hold it far enough off so that the flame doesn't get close enough to overheat or burn the plastic, and the plastic will start to soften, then you can bend it.

It's worth noting that there was slightly too much heat applied, and the pommel of the sword actually began to sag. So it is -marginally- shifted a bit in one direction, almost impossible to notice. So, kids (and fellow adults), if you want to try this at home be really careful with the application of heat, as the rest of the sword IS the same plastic (duh!) and will start to sag and soften at about the same time as the guard will.






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by its pbj time on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 05:40
Thats an awsome sword.........but I was wondering how you got the sword in the first place?


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by Unknown Artist on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 05:43
Frim Chris' B-Link shop or from LA Shop before it sold out, I guess...


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by Damien on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 05:51

It is, indeed, a fact that I've been around and nabbing stuff whenever I could since quite awhile before LA closed.



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by Eelie on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 06:41
Wonderful!  And it looks just like the reference pic (which will also be a stunning blade). Damien, you've crafted a lovely piece.  I'm jealous   ;)   Keep it up - can't wait to see more!



by Emily on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 07:02
Cool. Looks great and exactly like the referance pic.


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by Pharazon on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 07:04
I almost feel bad saying it, but I think I like your modification better than the original. No disrespect to this Jeff character. Great work Damien, now you just need to make a Norman(?) warrior to go with it.


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by Shadow of Deth on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 08:23

Nicely done! Simple, yet elegant modification. Good work, and let's see some more!

Quote:
No disrespect to this Jeff character.
Oh, ok...so now I'm a character? Dude...inform yourself by checking my Brickshelf link. And to think I voted for your shield design. -sheesh- what's a guy gotta do? :P




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by its pbj time on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 11:47

He was tlking about Jeff from LA.....the guy who made the original sword unless you are him.....




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by Crazy Boy on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 12:00
that is in fact him,
I would try this myself if I didnt always set stuff on fire.


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by Deathstickman on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 14:07
its pbj time wrote:
He was tlking about Jeff from LA.....the guy who made the original sword unless you are him.....

Hehehehe...

That's really cool Damien, it's hard to see where the seams are, the gluing is so good! (Nice to see you posting more btw)


by Lamanda2 on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 14:12

Wow,he glued something on it?

I didn't even notice..(and I still don't)

Must be a really Glue job ; )




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by Deathstickman on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 14:22
I knew that...


<---- shameless hypocrite.


by Damien on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 16:25


There's no gluing, guys. Like I said, all I did was heat and bend the guard. As much as I'd like to take credit for some amazingly seemless gluing. . . . . .nope.

Phar: Since it's based on the Fiore (the sword being named for Fiore dei Liberi, an Italian fencing master), I think what I need to do is make a good Italian-type fig to use it. Hmm. . .

Jeff: Glad you like it, man.


Back to the drawing board. Today I'm going to try to roll up the ends of one of the single-hand swords. We'll see how all that turns out. I will post my success or failure when it's done.




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by Pharazon on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 16:59

Wait a tic. . . Jeff, Little Armory, Shadow of Deth this is all the same guy!? This is a revelation to me! I seriously need to start paying more attention, sorry about that SOD. Clearly a case of biting the hand that feeds, or should I say votes.

Speaking of paying attention, guess I could have actually read your original post Damien. All this stuff on the History Channel lately about the Knight's Templer had me thinking that era/region. There were several visual references, and all had depictions of a very sword style to your custom. Good luck with this future mod idea, cant' wait to see how it turns out.




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by Damien on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 21:10

Updated the first post. Have a look guys.




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by Lamanda2 on Sun, 05/21/2006 - 21:19

Another great modification Damien,

..and I didn't think Little Armory's stuff could get any better ; )




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by Emily on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 17:41
Wow looks great also keep it up!


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by Damien on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 18:45

Thanks guys. Or should I say - guy and girl.


I've updated the first post yet again with a new style 9 sword. This time I'm actually totally pleased with the results. Check it out.




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by pacman110011 on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 19:30
looks really nice man, both of em


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by Lamanda2 on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 19:38

Damien wrote:

Thanks guys. Or should I say - guy and girl.


I've updated the first post yet again with a new style 9 sword. This time I'm actually totally pleased with the results. Check it out.

Don't you mean girls?

Anyways,I like the new pictures you added,looks very nice Damien.




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by kunaiblade on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 19:51

Yes!!! (I will not say what I'm saying yes about) 

(recuctantly)  OK, the swords are awesome!

How exactly did you make 'em?

(I might not've read your posts thoroughly enough. :D)




 

 

by Recluce on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 20:34

Oh man, reading this topic has me darn near rolling on the floor with laughter.... thanks guys.

Damien, I really like the modifications you've made.  I'd like to know your thoughts on a celtic war sword like this:

What LA sword do you think would work best?




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by Damien on Mon, 05/22/2006 - 20:46

Lam: Okay, now I feel like a heel. Girls.

Recluce: Hm. Good question. Out of all the LA swords - I'd say the first style single-hander, with the curved guard and disc pommel, is probably the best. I'd just trim the guard a little and then heat-bend it right down to the blade. As for adding the little arms to the pommel, which I suppose qualify as an upper guard - - - no idea. Maybe just cleverly cut styrene glued below the pommel? I was thinking of doing something similar, but if I do it, I'm going to use a lobate pommel from the Viking swords instead.




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